Friday, August 20, 2010

Daisy Khan: "When will Muslims be accepted?"

Daisy Khan, along with her husband Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, is one of the co-founders of Cordoba House, which has proposed to build a mosque more than two blocks from Ground Zero, causing a political and religious furor.

She says she and her husband will not back down. "There is too much at stake," she says. "Constitutional rights, the development of the Muslims here, how the world is watching the United States. We tell people America upholds religious freedom. We should not compromise those values."

Khan says that it is "evident that there is still healing that needs to happen. There are bigger issues here and it's also about how Muslims are perceived. When will Muslims be accepted as plain old Americans?"

Khan says that there are huge ramifications to closing down or being forced to relocate. "We are debating about having a healing dialogue, building bridges and this whole thing has turned into the opposite of what we have envisioned. " She says that they are now having discussions with 9/11 families. "We will have a dialogue with them. " But she says, "It is private property. To walk away without taking everything into consideration would be irresponsible.

To: Free ThinkerNY

Identify the enemy.

Engage the enemy.

Neutralize the enemy.

Maybe then, we can “dialogue”. Until then, Daisy, STFU.

6 posted on Friday, August 20, 2010 11:15:05 AM by Frank_2001

To: Free ThinkerNY

“When will Muslims be accepted as plain old Americans?”

1) When they stop flying planes into buildings full of innocent people.

2) When they allow churches to be built in muslim countries without having to worry about christians being attacked by the police, of all people.

3) When they stop stoning women and beating them raw for horrid crimes like going to school.

4) When they stop trying to make us accept women in our countries covered in black bags.

I got more, Daisy. In the meantime, get back to me when you make real progress on the first four.

8 posted on Friday, August 20, 2010 11:15:34 AM by I still care (I believe in the universality of freedom -George Bush, asked if he regrets going to war.)

To: Free ThinkerNY
Daisy Khan: "When will Muslims be accepted?"

When they stop trying killing everyone else....


14 posted on Friday, August 20, 2010 11:17:53 AM by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)

To: Free ThinkerNY

I thought Muslims believed it was wrong to mingle with non-Muslims? How are they going to welcome all kinds of people to their community center, and square it with their religion?

15 posted on Friday, August 20, 2010 11:17:57 AM by SuziQ

To: I still care
5.) When they stop demanding special privileges whereever they live or travel.
17 posted on Friday, August 20, 2010 11:19:09 AM by oyez (The difference in genius and stupidity is that genius has limits.)

To: Free ThinkerNY

When you abandon sharia law and submit to Constitutional rule of law, my dear.

Islam is not the supreme law in the United States. The Constitution is.

That’s what “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof . . .” means.

The exercise of your religion is not supreme in this land. The Constitution is.

If there is no room in your religion for this concept, then there is no room in the United States of America for your religion. Sorry if that sounds a bit intolerant, but the fact is that the First Amendment expresses the exact OPPOSITE of intolerance. Our forefathers had ample experience with religious intolerance themselves before the founding of this country. That’s why the First Amendment begins the way it does.

Religion is between you and God (or Allah, or whatever.) The government may not in any way enforce religious law in this country. Sharia law is utterly incompatible with the Constitution.

And if you want to argue that point . . . that’s what the Second Amendment is for.

19 posted on Friday, August 20, 2010 11:20:41 AM by filbert (More filbert at http://www.medary.com--The Revolution Will Be Exit-Polled.)

To: jimbo123

Islam will be “accepted” when Saudi Arabia (and other “Islamic” nations) allow Christians to safely proselytize, worship, and build Christian Churches in their countries and Muslims to safely convert to other religions.

Until then, consider the “UnWelcome” mat to be out.

23 posted on Friday, August 20, 2010 11:22:03 AM by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!)

To: Free ThinkerNY
"There is too much at stake," she says. "Constitutional rights, the development of the Muslims here, how the world is watching the United States. We tell people America upholds religious freedom. We should not compromise those values."


Can anyone spell S-H-A-R-I-A?
25 posted on Friday, August 20, 2010 11:22:49 AM by Deo volente (God willing, America will survive this Obamination.)

To: Free ThinkerNY
Islam is completely incompatible with 2500 years of Western Civilization from Athens to Jerusalem, from Rome to Aachen, from New York to St. Petersburg.

Keep to your sandbox and you won't have any problems. Pull this s____ outside the sandbox expect to by smacked around some.
33 posted on Friday, August 20, 2010 11:27:01 AM by Oratam
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Muslims will be accepted when a) they fully and unconditionally renounce the goal of imposing Sharia on anyone who does voluntarily accept it, and b) they fully and unconditionally accept that all persons have the right liberty—the right to do whatever does not violate the reciprocally-respected rights of others.

Unfortunately, satisfying either one of those conditions requires that they abrogate certain fundamental commands of the Quran.
34 posted on Friday, August 20, 2010 11:27:08 AM by sourcery (Obama is so conceited, he probably thinks that the 'Zero' in 'Ground Zero' refers to him!)

To: Free ThinkerNY

They are accepted today. In predominantly Muslim nations, they are well respected.

Christians should have a right to a nation where they are well respected too.

Muslim people who wish to be devout, should stay where the Muslim customs are revered.

They should not be able to come to predominant Christian nations and demand Christianity make concessions concerning faith.

If they could, then there won’t be one Christian nation by 2050. Muslim nations not giving an inch, we’re not about to make them tolerant to Christianity.

We must remain separate if we are to survive this. Sorry it has to be that way, but then it’s not my choice to destroy Islam world-wide. It is Islam’s choice to destroy Christianity world-wide.

35 posted on Friday, August 20, 2010 11:27:18 AM by DoughtyOne (UniTea! It's not Rs vs Ds you dimwits. It's Cs vs Ls. Cut the crap & lets build for success.)

To: Grizzled Bear; All

Religion, my aging are.

Islam is a cult that demands total state control of everyone’s life and choices.

Why do they get away with telling us it is a “religion”. Please write, call, and visit your congress critters, and demand to know why they are accepting this political system as a “peaceful religion”.

It isn’t peaceful, and it certainly isn’t a religion.

40 posted on Friday, August 20, 2010 11:29:50 AM by jacquej

When will Muslims be accepted as plain old Americans?

I'm sorry Daisy - it isn't you - its your book which you are claiming as the fount of your faith. This book (the koran and the hadith) says that the islamic method of evangelism is by the sword. The non-islamic world has 3 choices: convert to islam; or be enslaved; or die. This book preaches the doctrine of satan - not the Word of a Holy God...

So none of us have a problem with the typical non-believing Muslim who just clings to the few 'good verses' (the ones the koran ripped out of the Bible), and who is just trying to get along. But there is a fundamental problem with a 'movement' based on a book that exhorts the parasite to kill its host - and provides an outline on how to do it (including all the variations of 'taqiya'). As a consequence, you never know if the 'good' Muslim is really OK - or in 'hibernation' waiting for his inner jihadist to be released as he becomes 'religious'...
And you can never know.
41 posted on Friday, August 20, 2010 11:30:18 AM by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)

To: y'all
When you have a thirteen story Catholic Credential in mecca and medina...

When you have a thirteen story Methodist Church in mecca and medina...

When you have a thirteen story Buddhist Temple in mecca and medina...

When you have a thirteen story Presbyterian Churches in mecca and medina...

When you have a thirteen story Jewish Temple in mecca and medina.

Need I go on? 8!tc]-[...

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43 posted on Friday, August 20, 2010 11:30:44 AM by OnTheDress (Live and let live; is not working...)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

When the Saudis allow churches and synagogues in Mecca, then we’ll talk.

44 posted on Friday, August 20, 2010 11:31:28 AM by dfwgator

To: Free ThinkerNY

Muslims like to talk about how non-Muslims took “Muslim lands.” So, I’d say they can be accepted when they return Egypt, Syria, and Constantinople to the Christians.

46 posted on Friday, August 20, 2010 11:32:07 AM by paudio (She wanted to be known as another Jackie O. Instead, people see her another Marie Antoinette)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Boy, Daisy is REALLY good with the talking points!
And I love the little thing about there not being all that much interest in the Muslim countries her husband is visiting......I guess that’s supposed to jumpstart the idea that the American taxpayer is going to foot the bill for Cordoba House. Just because we like to do ‘the right thing’, of course. How stupid do these people think we are, to even take this crap they spew seriously?

47 posted on Friday, August 20, 2010 11:33:25 AM by supremedoctrine ("Every election is like an advance auction sale of stolen goods"--H.L.Mencken)

To: Frank_2001

Most people do not recognize that what happens in a mosque is sedition. Pure and simple. Islam is not just a “religion”, it is a cult. Larger than that though, it is a political system, it is it’s own government, its judicial...is in its sharia, and its military (jihadis) all rolled into one with one intent ...and that is to rule wherever they take root. It is a invasive, systemic infection looking to take over the host once it has quantum.

This is not just a “religion”, but something that cloaks itself in those terms so it should not be given the same treatment contemplated under the first amendment. The Korans Sharia rules are to consume whatever government there is wherever it goes.
It is political, and it’s goal is to supplant and replace.

The sooner America learns this , the better.

Obama? Obama and Company? Should be tried for treason in this issue for promoting the establishment of a foreign government on our soils. He is doing nothing to protect America as per his oath. Also, as a Muslim, he knows this, he know far better, he knows sharia, but is looking to deceive America.

For all interested...Wanna learn more?

http://thehayride.com/2010/08/louisiana-at-leading-edge-in-fight-against-shariah/#more-5392

and this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib9rofXQl6w&feature=player_embedded

Lets keep America, America!

Obama? Obama and Company? Should be tried for treason in this issue for promoting the establishment of a foreign government on our soils. As a Muslim, he knows this, he knows sharia, but is looking to deceive America.

50 posted on Friday, August 20, 2010 11:35:13 AM by himno hero

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